System Buyers' Guide: PCs for Under $1000
by Sean Hollister on February 12, 2010 2:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Intel Entry-Level PC
From Pentium 4 to Pentium D, Core 2 Duo to Core 2 Extreme—not to mention the occasional Celeron and Xeon—Intel's LGA 775 socket has had a long, illustrious six years housing powerful processors. We're not going to write LGA 775's obituary quite yet, as Intel hasn't officially announced an end-of-life date for the aging socket. But with widespread availability of a mainstream successor in LGA 1156 and leaked Intel roadmaps depicting only the Pentium Dual-Core chips to continue through 2010, the writing's on the wall. If you buy an LGA 775 system today, don't expect to be able to easily upgrade its processor through retail channels next year.
However, none of that says an LGA 775 processor and motherboard can't be the base for a fantastic budget PC. LGA 775 chips have proven to be excellent overclockers, with many of the recent 45nm SKUs capable of reaching speeds up to 4GHz at stock voltage. They are mature and reliable; multiple AnandTech editors still use them in their home PCs, and clock for clock they continue to compete well against AMD's offerings (albeit at generally higher prices and/or lower core counts). And should you still want to upgrade at some point down the road, the aforementioned wide variety of compatible processors means that you may still find an opportunity to do so in the secondhand market.
| Intel Entry-Level System | ||
| Hardware | Component | Price |
| Processor | Intel Pentium Dual-Core E5300 (2.6GHz x2, 45nm, 2MB L2 Cache) |
$65 |
| Cooling | CPU Retail HSF | $0 |
| Video | Onboard | $0 |
| Motherboard | ASUS P5G43T-M Pro LGA 775 Micro ATX | $80 |
| Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3-1600 F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL | $105 |
| Hard Drive | WD Caviar Blue 500GB WD5000AAKS | $54 |
| Optical Drive | Sony Optiarc Model AD-7240S-OB 24X DVDRW SATA | $28 |
| Audio | Onboard | $0 |
| Case | Cooler Master Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Mid Tower ATX | $55 |
| Power Supply | OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W ATX12V SLI Certified, CrossFire Ready, 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC (before $25 Rebate) | $65 |
| Base System Total | $452 | |
| Display | ASUS VW193TR Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD (1440 x 900) | $120 |
| Speakers | Built-in Monitor | $0 |
| Input | Microsoft B2L-00045 Comfort Curve Black USB Keyboard and Optical USB Mouse - OEM | $22 |
| Operating System | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium OEM 1-Pack (for System Builders) | $105 |
| Complete System Total | $699 | |
| Plus Estimated Shipping (within Continental U.S.) | $715 | |
| Rebates | -$25 | |
| Final Total (less tax, if applicable) | $690 | |
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Since December 2008, our CPU of choice for the Intel Entry-level PC has been the excellent Pentium Dual-Core E5200 Wolfdale: a 2.5GHz, $64 processor that hit a sweet spot in the price/performance ratio that no other Intel chip could match. Today, we're going to stray ever so slightly from our previous recommendation and suggest you pick up its bigger brother, the 2.6GHz Pentium Dual-Core E5300 instead. Why? Simply put, the $65 E5300 is the exact same chip, but with a 13x multiplier that immediately makes it 100MHz faster—for only $1 more. And considering that 13x multiplier also means a higher maximum overclock than that of the 12.5x E5200, we believe that extra $1 is money very well spent.
It's also important to note that since late 2009, new E5300 processors have been shipping with Intel's Virtualization Technology, or VT-x. If you're hoping to run the Windows XP Mode under Windows 7 Professional/Ultimate, you'll need this feature and you won't find it on the E5200. You can indeed find VT-x on the cheaper $60 Celeron E3400, but only in exchange for a significant drop in performance. On the other hand, if you're looking to spend even more on a processor and don't plan to overclock, you might consider the 2.8GHz E6300 for $80, which has guaranteed VT-x support and a 1066MHz (vs. 800MHz) FSB speed.
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With LGA 775 fading from the public eye, it was imperative that we find as capable and upgradable a motherboard as we could fit into our budget while such boards were still to be found. To that end, we chose the ASUS P5G43T-M Pro. At only $80, the P5G43T-M Pro features both the Intel G43 GMCH as well as the ICH10 Southbridge, allowing for acceptable video playback with the X4500 IGP and plenty of storage options, including a single IDE header and six SATA 3Gb/s ports. The board supports all LGA 775 processors up to the Core 2 Extreme series, 8GB of DDR3-1333 memory, and has excellent connectivity with VGA, DVI and HDMI ports, six USB 2.0 ports, Gigabit LAN and Realtek ALC887 8-channel HD audio, in addition to combo PS/2 and optical S/PDIF audio out. Onboard, there's a single PCIe x16 slot, a PCIe x1 slot and two PCI slots, as well as headers for six more USB 2.0 ports. There's no hardware RAID support, only a single chassis fan connector and you won't be playing new games or natively decoding H.264/VC-1/MPEG2 streams with the integrated X4500 graphics, but the P5G43T-M Pro's got a pretty solid layout with room to grow.
All other components are the same ones chosen for our AMD Entry-level PC, up to and including that 4GB of G.Skill DDR3-1600 memory. Even for an LGA 775 rig—where the majority of affordable motherboards use DDR2—we felt it didn't make financial sense to go with the slower modules when quality DDR3 is available for a marginal price increase, and can be repurposed if/when you build your next PC. However, if you're looking to squeeze out every last drop of value, you can pick up low-end DDR2-800 memory instead as with our AMD build. In that case, our motherboard recommendation is the ASRock G43Twins-FullHD (a similarly featured G43/ICH10 Micro ATX with separate DDR2 and DDR3 slots and a DVI/DisplayPort riser card) for $75. Just be aware that the G43Twins-FullHD uses jumper settings for its memory divider, so you'll need to check the manual in order to properly set the board for your memory.
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DominionSeraph - Saturday, February 13, 2010 - link
For only $6900 + a measly $400 tax (CT), you could have an 8 core 2.93GHz with a whopping 6GB RAM and a rebranded Geforce 8600 GT!Can i haz tek job nao?
chrnochime - Saturday, February 13, 2010 - link
I haven't been keeping up to date with the socket h burn issue. So, has Anand et al figured out, with or without help from the manu, determine the source of the socket burn problem?I can only speak for myself that unless this is determined conclusively, I'm stuck going with either socket 1366 or frantically scour up the last of the 775 motherboards.
stardude82 - Saturday, February 20, 2010 - link
There was never an really issue with the 1156 Boards. The problem was only with Foxconn sockets used for extreme overclocking above 4 Ghz. If you are really concerned there are lots of boards with the Lotts manufactured sockets.clarkn0va - Saturday, February 13, 2010 - link
Ignoring ACC and the possibility of unlocking one core of the Athlon II X3 435, it's not obvious why one would pay an extra 67% for the Phenom II X3 720, at least not from the information provided in the article.Looking in Bench, these two CPUs trade blows on all the benchmarks and there is no obvious winner. Add to that the possibility of turning the 435 into a quad, and the fact that it's $50 cheaper, according to this article, and I have no idea how SH can recommend the 720 at all, at least not without looking at information beyond what's presented here and in Bench. Please enlighten me if I'm missing the point though.
Great article, Sean. It's always interesting to see what other pros are recommending and why.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=112&...">http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=112&...
SeanHollister - Sunday, February 14, 2010 - link
You're right on the money, pun intended. In terms of performance per dollar at stock clocks, the Athlon is indeed a much better value for today's software, especially if you manage to unlock the fourth core.That said, there are three things that distinguish the Phenom. First, it's a better (and easier) overclocker. Second, it's the better gaming CPU in all benchmarks I've yet seen. Third and most importantly, it's got a sizable L3 cache—fast becoming an industry standard for CPUs—where the Athlon has none.
In today's software and benchmarks, the L3 cache doesn't offer much of an advantage, just as a dual-core processor wouldn't offer an advantage over a single core a number of years back, but I'm guessing that as just as multithreading takes hold, so will the L3 cache that assists it.
All that said, is a bit of futureproofing and a little extra gaming performance worth $50? To be completely honest, when I first chose the Phenom chip, I was calculating its value at the Newegg price of $105, which I realized at the very last minute was the price for the bare CPU, *without a cooler,* and failed to rethink the value equation when I adjusted the price.
piasabird - Friday, February 12, 2010 - link
http://www.directron.com/clarkdalesys1.html">http://www.directron.com/clarkdalesys1.htmlPart Number:SYS-Clarkdale-System-01Regular price:$419.99On Sale: $399.99
System Components:
Processor: Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz Clarkdale 32nm Dual Core CPU
Memory: 2GB (1x2GB) DDR3 1066 memory
Motherboard: MSI H55M-E33 Socket 1156 Micro-ATX motherboard with Intel H55 chipset
Video: Integrated
Audio: 8 Channel Audio
Storage: 320GB SATA2 Hard Drive
Optical: 24X DVD-RW Drive
Case: Thermaltake V3 Black Edition mid-tower case with TR2 450W power supply.
jigar - Friday, February 12, 2010 - link
My very first post on Anandtech. before today i hadn't even heard of Anandtech. Found it really impressive (especially the CPU benchmark comparison bit).after reading this article i have decided to build my own base unit (with the help of a pal). my old unit stopped working few days ago (hence the reason me trawling the net).
thing is, the prices quoted are in dollars. do you guys have any idea how much cheaper/expensive they are in UK? i tried shopping on amazon for parts and found out that intel core i3 530 is about £90 (is that reasonable? do you guys know where else i could shop for parts?)
also, i got confused whilst reading the article. do i need to buy two hard drives or just one? you have mentioned WD Caviar blue 500GB on the intel mainstream pc system but in the upgrade section you have said that intel X25-V solid state drive which is only 40GB (£96 on amazon) is essential for a multitasker as it also speeds up basic computing and will cut windows load times by half.
i am actually not a gamer. i just want a system where as mentioned above, the windows load up quickly and where i can use different programs at once (without slowing down the computer - e.g. internet and microsoft word etc).
the other thing you mentioned was Cooling - CPU retail HSF - i searched for it on amazon but nothing came up :(
i also already have a monitor so just need a base unit which is fast and reliable (i am totally fed up with installing windows software every few months).
my original budget was between £200 and £300 but may spend upto £400.
Any help will be really appreciated.
FlyTexas - Friday, February 12, 2010 - link
Welcome to AnandTech, one of the better tech review sites on the web.A quick heads up, most of us here have been doing this awhile and are rather techie, so forgive us when we talk over your head, it is not meant to be rude.
The Heatsink & Fan come with the Retail version of the CPU, you do not buy them separately.
You don't have to buy 2 hard drives, the suggestion for the 40GB Intel drive is just due to the speed of SSDs (Solid State Drives). These drives use flash memory rather than spinning disks, they are fast, but expensive.
As for places to buy, almost everyone here will tell you NewEgg, however they do not sell internationally. Google "newegg uk equivalent" to get some ideas.
jigar - Saturday, February 13, 2010 - link
but if i only get one hard drive with a 40Gb storage (i admit it will be faster and that is what i want) but where would i store all the files?what if i buy two hard drives? one fast solid state 40GB to boot up the computer and the other to store files (i would like the system to work for atleast few years so i probably will need a big enough hard drive) so is it possible to have two hard drives, one to boot up and one to store files?
how big is 40GB, will it be enough for me? i watched avatar and saved it on my desktop (the legend of aang series is alone 15GB). it was my favourite so i downloaded it. but i dont download/save movies so probably something like 250 or 500GB should be enough for me?
since i saved those avatar files, my computer went really slow. it would take minutes (literaly) to take any single action.
can you make a separate list for me please? (using uk part names) there is this website www.pcspecialist.co.uk (may be you can guide me through their prices and parts).
Ratman6161 - Friday, February 12, 2010 - link
Take for example your Intel entry level build at $690.00.Check out this from HP: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/compute...">http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopp...ktops/Ev...
Or I'll save you the time of following the link by saying its an i3 based system with 4gb DDR3 RAM and onboard video and audio. So that should be better performance than the E5300 and its $549.00
About two months ago I bought my inlaws a similar system but with the 5300 and 3 GB DDR2 on my company's employee purchase program for $349.00.
Build it yourself makes sense for mid-range to high end -- if that is you are the kind of person who wants to get exactly the specs you were looking for. But on the low end, there is just no way that you can build a system for the prices the big OEMs are charging. The other big advantage is that if I built the system for them, then I would also become their technical support where this way they can call HP. Then again, the system has been working so well, they haven't had to call HP either.